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The Falling Frame Meets Relative Rest

Irodov 1.165DifficultyDifficulty 3 of 5UniquenessUniqueness 4 of 5

Problem Irodov 1.165

A stone is released from rest at height hh above the ground and falls freely under a constant gravitational acceleration gg, air resistance neglected, striking the ground with speed v0=2ghv_0=\sqrt{2gh} relative to the Earth. Demonstrate that this same relation for v0v_0 is recovered when the fall is analyzed instead in a reference frame K′K' that itself moves downward, relative to the Earth, at the constant velocity v0v_0.

The setup in the Earth frame K: the stone is released from rest a height h above the ground and falls freely from there.

The setup in the Earth frame KK: the stone is released from rest a height hh above the ground and falls freely from there.

Given
  • hh
  • gg
  • K′' moves at constant velocity v0=2ghv_0=\sqrt{2gh} relative to the Earth
Find
demonstrate that the same relation v0=2ghv_0=\sqrt{2gh} follows when the fall is analyzed in K′K'

Solution

Step 1Transform the stone’s and the ground’s velocities into K′K'

Take the downward direction as positive, with the stone released at t=0t=0 from y=0y=0 and the ground at y=hy=h. In KK the stone’s velocity is u(t)=gtu(t)=gt, and the ground, fixed in KK, has velocity 00. Since K′K' moves at the constant velocity v0v_0 (downward) relative to KK, subtracting v0v_0 from each gives the same quantities in K′K':

ustone′(t)=u(t)−v0=gt−v0uground′=0−v0=−v0(1) \begin{aligned} u'_{\text{stone}}(t) &= u(t)-v_0 = gt-v_0 \\ u'_{\text{ground}} &= 0-v_0 = -v_0 \end{aligned} \tag{1}
Step 2The stone and the ground start at relative rest in K′K'
The release instant in the two frames. In K the stone is at rest a height h above the ground. In K', falling at v_0, both the stone and the ground move upward at that one speed, so the two start at relative rest.

The release instant in the two frames. In KK the stone is at rest a height hh above the ground. In K′K', falling at v0v_0, both the stone and the ground move upward at that one speed, so the two start at relative rest.

Evaluating the stone’s velocity (1) at the release instant t=0t=0,

ustone′(0)=g(0)−v0=−v0,u'_{\text{stone}}(0) = g(0)-v_0 = -v_0,

which is exactly the ground’s velocity uground′=−v0u'_{\text{ground}}=-v_0 found above. So at t=0t=0 the relative velocity of the stone with respect to the ground in K′K' is

ustone′(0)−uground′=0u'_{\text{stone}}(0)-u'_{\text{ground}} = 0
(2)

even though neither body is individually at rest in K′K': both instantaneously share the single velocity −v0-v_0 (a speed v0v_0 upward), which is exactly what the figure’s right-hand panel shows.

Step 3Integrate the relative motion in K′K'

Differentiating ustone′(t)u'_{\text{stone}}(t) and uground′u'_{\text{ground}} from (1), the stone’s velocity relative to the ground in K′K' is

vrel(t)=ustone′(t)−uground′=(gt−v0)−(−v0)=gt,v_{\text{rel}}(t) = u'_{\text{stone}}(t)-u'_{\text{ground}} = (gt-v_0)-(-v_0) = gt,

which vanishes at t=0t=0, consistent with (2). Integrating this relative velocity from release to the contact instant t=Tt=T gives the relative displacement covered by then,

∫0Tvrel(t) dt=∫0Tgt dt=12gT2.\int_0^T v_{\text{rel}}(t)\,dt = \int_0^T gt\,dt = \frac{1}{2}gT^2.

A Galilean transform translates both bodies’ positions by the same amount at any instant, so the separation between the stone and the ground at t=0t=0 is still hh in K′K', exactly as in KK; the relative displacement above must therefore equal hh,

12gT2=h  ⟹  T=2hg.\frac{1}{2}gT^2 = h \;\Longrightarrow\; T=\sqrt{\frac{2h}{g}}.

Substituting back into vrel(t)=gtv_{\text{rel}}(t)=gt at t=Tt=T gives the relative speed at contact.

v0=g2hg=2ghv_0 = g\sqrt{\dfrac{2h}{g}} = \sqrt{2gh}
(3)

because the relative speed of approach between the stone and the ground is exactly the quantity the problem calls v0v_0, and it cannot depend on which inertial frame it was computed in.

Check

A striking by-product confirms the bookkeeping: evaluating ustone′u'_{\text{stone}} from (1) at the contact instant t=T=v0/gt=T=v_0/g gives ustone′(T)=gT−v0=v0−v0=0u'_{\text{stone}}(T)=gT-v_0=v_0-v_0=0, so the stone arrives at the ground with zero velocity of its own in K′K'. That is consistent, not contradictory: the ground itself is still moving upward at v0v_0 in K′K' at that instant, so the relative velocity is 0−(−v0)=v00-(-v_0)=v_0, matching (2)’s zero at the start and the boxed result at the end.

Remark

The formula v0=2ghv_0=\sqrt{2gh} was never really a statement about the stone’s velocity in one particular frame; it is a statement about the relative velocity of approach between the stone and the Earth, and relative velocity is Galilean invariant, so the stone and the ground share a common velocity at the release instant in every inertial frame, KK included (both simply start at rest there). What is special about K′K' is the other end of the motion: by the checkline above, K′K' is the unique inertial frame in which the stone’s own velocity happens to vanish exactly at the moment of impact, which is why, viewed from inside K′K', the whole event reads as a fresh drop from rest, even though neither body is at rest in an absolute sense.